A reply to: 'We suffered 8 years under Obama'

samcraig

Active member
Aug 18, 2020
26
79
Copied from a friend...

The sentence I hear most from well-meaning, conservative friends since President Trump’s election is this: “We suffered 8 years under Barack Obama.”

Fair enough. Let’s take a look.

The day Obama took office, the Dow closed at 7,949 points. Eight years later, the Dow had almost tripled.

General Motors and Chrysler were on the brink of bankruptcy, with Ford not far behind, and their failure, along with their supply chains, would have meant the loss of millions of jobs. Obama pushed through a controversial, $8o billion bailout to save the car industry. The U.S. car industry survived, started making money again, and the entire $80 billion was paid back, with interest.

While we remain vulnerable to lone-wolf attacks, no foreign terrorist organization has successfully executed a mass attack here since 9/11.

Obama ordered the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden.

He drew down the number of troops from 180,000 in Iraq and Afghanistan to just 15,000, and increased funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

He launched a program called Opening Doors which, since 2010, has led to a 47 percent decline in the number of homeless veterans.

He set a record 73 straight months of private-sector job growth.

Due to Obama’s regulatory policies, greenhouse gas emissions decreased by 12%, production of renewable energy more than doubled, and our dependence on foreign oil was cut in half.

He signed The Lilly Ledbetter Act, making it easier for women to sue employers for unequal pay.

His Omnibus Public Lands Management Act designated more than 2 million acres as wilderness, creating thousands of miles of trails and protecting over 1,000 miles of rivers.

He reduced the federal deficit from 9.8 percent of GDP in 2009 to 3.2 percent in 2016.

For all the inadequacies of the Affordable Care Act, we seem to have forgotten that, before the ACA, you could be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition and kids could not stay on their parents’ policies up to age 26.

Obama approved a $14.5 billion system to rebuild the levees in New Orleans.

All this, even as our own Mitch McConnell famously asserted that his singular mission would be to block anything President Obama tried to do.

While Obama failed on his campaign pledge to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, that prison’s population decreased from 242 to around 50.

He expanded funding for embryonic stem cell research, supporting groundbreaking advancement in areas like spinal injury treatment and cancer.

Credit card companies can no longer charge hidden fees or raise interest rates without advance notice.

Most years, Obama threw a 4th of July party for military families. He held babies, played games with children, served barbecue, and led the singing of “Happy Birthday” to his daughter Malia, who was born on July 4.

Welfare spending is down: for every 100 poor families, just 24 receive cash assistance, compared with 64 in 1996.

Obama comforted families and communities following more than a dozen mass shootings. After Sandy Hook, he said, “The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old.”

Yet, he never took away anyone’s guns.

He sang Amazing Grace, spontaneously, at the altar.

He was the first president since Eisenhower to serve two terms without personal or political scandal.

He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

President Obama was not perfect, as no man and no president is, and you can certainly disagree with his political ideologies. But to say we suffered? If that’s the argument, if this is how we suffered for 8 years under Barack Obama, I have one wish: may we be so fortunate as to suffer 8 more.
 

SuperMatt

Site Champ
Aug 11, 2020
345
452
They suffered the indignity of having a black man as President of the United States. That is 100% it. None of the rest matters. Don’t bother. They attacked Kamala Harris immediately. They are racists. They voted for Trump because he is a racist, not in spite of it. There is no other reasonable explanation.
 

Chew Toy McCoy

Site Champ
Aug 15, 2020
371
611
Honestly I think it comes down to decades of the establishment growing the wealth inequality gap. If you are over the age of 20 most people don't need to look back further than their parents to see how much more difficult or expensive it is to do something like get a higher education of buy a house, and this hit even harder in the millions of people who live in blue collar communities. Most of the above mentioned did absolutely nothing for them.
 

Scepticalscribe

Moderator
Staff member
Aug 12, 2020
540
775
They suffered the indignity of having a black man as President of the United States. That is 100% it. None of the rest matters. Don’t bother. They attacked Kamala Harris immediately. They are racists. They voted for Trump because he is a racist, not in spite of it. There is no other reasonable explanation.
Not only a black man, but a cool, calm, collected, black man with a exemplary domestic life, - an incredible role model to young black people and people of colour - one who, as @samcraig saliently points out, had an almost uniquely scandal free (both personally and professionally) presidency.

How dare those lesser beings, deemed and defined as inferior by decree and dogma, who were once former slaves, - after all, a civil war had been fought to preserve a political and social and economic system that was built on slavery and buttressed by the determined and fervent promulgation and propagation of the doctrine of racial inequality - dare to dream, or aspire to such dreams?
 
Last edited:

SuperMatt

Site Champ
Aug 11, 2020
345
452
Honestly I think it comes down to decades of the establishment growing the wealth inequality gap. If you are over the age of 20 most people don't need to look back further than their parents to see how much more difficult or expensive it is to do something like get a higher education of buy a house, and this hit even harder in the millions of people who live in blue collar communities. Most of the above mentioned did absolutely nothing for them.
Trump expanded the wealth gap even further, and yet the people who claimed they “suffered” under Obama don’t seem to mind. They support Trump rabidly. Sorry, they are full of it.
 

PearsonX

Site Champ
Aug 25, 2020
312
387
Not only a black man, but a cool, calm, collected, black man with a exemplary domestic life, - an incredible role model to young black people and people of colour - one who, as @samcraig saliently points out, had an almost uniquely scandal free (both personally and professionally) presidency.
How dare he not exhibit those indisputable traits of inferiority defined by Jensen? How dare....